Jane Fonda said she sometimes lies awake in bed imagining conversations with Donald Trump.
“In my mind, sometimes when I lie in bed, I have conversations with him,” the actor and activist said on the latest episode of Kara Swisher’s podcast, “On With Kara Swisher.”
Fonda said her decade-long marriage to CNN founder Ted Turner — whom she said Trump “used to really like and admire” — meant she may understand certain aspects of the president better than most.
“I feel because I spent a decade with Ted Turner, I understand Trump a little bit because they have certain things in common: early trauma at the hands of the father, etc.,” she said, adding she’d tell Trump in the imagined talks: “You have things in common.”

Fonda said she’d “try to touch his heart.”
She also revealed how her early unsuccessful efforts to convince Trump to tackle the climate crisis led to her planning to “go and meet with him with a bunch of really brilliant, sexy women and kneel at his feet, because I thought this would work with Ted, and tell him he could be a global hero if he saved the planet.”
“Baywatch” star and fellow activist Pamela Anderson “was willing to go with me,” she added.
But the effort ultimately fell through.
Fonda said she does not “hate” Trump but views him — along with figures such as Elon Musk, the world’s richest person and an on-again, off-again Trump ally — as simply “not well.”
“It’s the not-wellness that we see acted out,” she said.
Watch the full interview here: